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Offline deathmetaldan

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"gaming laptops"
« on: Apr 17, 2014, 01:36 PM »
Corsair posted this on fackebook today and it really got me thinking

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2014/april/how_to_build_a_barebones_gaming_notebook

I have wanted to mess with laptops and stuff for awhile, but beyond just replacing screens, adding ram and hdds i never looked into it at all. I know we have some hardware enthusiasts here and was wondering if anybody has done something like this or knows a bit about it? I dont have much use for a gaming laptop/notebook right now, but it would be handy to have around for when a friend came over.

My main question is, what chassis or main board should i be looking for? Is it possible to look up hardware and is it easy to figure out compatibility?

Post up any knowledge or stories, i would appreciate it.

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Re: "gaming laptops"
« Reply #1 on: Apr 17, 2014, 02:35 PM »
 I'm no pro on the subject but I have built every PC I've ever owned. If you have never messed with this sort of stuff before then I'd say a Laptop build would be more difficult than a first time PC build.

 Compatibility is always a challenge due to the speed in which technology advances . Also with a laptop the "cooling" plays a large part of the planing and design of a build.

 I'd say start with a "Frag" box (small portable pc they now call them Steam machine) and work your way up.  Or maybe save all that wasted money and buy a good gaming Laptop off Asus or Alienware.

 This is only my opinion.

 I will say one thing ... that laptop on the link to provided must fly with those ssd drives in it.

 
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Re: "gaming laptops"
« Reply #2 on: Apr 17, 2014, 06:26 PM »
i have built all but 1 of the computers i ever owned, and that 1 i didnt build came before the one im using now and made me vow to never buy a prebuilt "gaming" computer again.

I know laptops are inferior when it comes to desktops, i dont think i will ever argue that point

I mainly just want to do this because i like taking apart and building things, but the main attraction to it is that i have never done it before.

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Re: "gaming laptops"
« Reply #3 on: Apr 17, 2014, 07:11 PM »
I can't imagine building a laptop from the ground-up same as a PC, or even doing considerable mods to existing laptop for that matter...

One question you ask about choosing a motherboard, but the article is a barebones which includes a case and motherboard already, amongst other things (unless I misread it).  I doubt there is any way to easily lookup if motherboard X works with case Y for instance just from if it fits, how it mounts and where the ports need to protrude from the case for starters.  Desktop motherboards and cases follow basic standards like AT, ATX, mATX.  I'm not sure there is similar for laptops?

Adding or changing components on an existing laptop is not news to me, but I thought all laptops used CPUs that were soldered to mobo, I didn't know they had user-replaceable CPUs in laptops so that's news to me, at least.

I _think_ I've seen some replaceable video cards.  I know I've seen some you can add into module bay for crossfire/sli.

AFAIK, choosing or changing HDD should be easy with not very many compatibility issues as long as you get the interface correct (ide, sata) and it fits in the bay (height, form factor).

Something as seemingly easy as changing the wireless mini-pci card is problematic as many laptop manufacturers code a whitelist approved mini-pci list into the motherboard bios and no other wireless mini-pci's will work.  You rarely run into that sort of thing changing PCI cards on a desktop PC.

The articles mentions limited memory chip compatibility.  Using memory chip compatibility lookup on sites like kingston or corsair crucial (the two manufacturers I recommend have had the best luck with), I've never had issues in that department.

Similar to what blankcache said, I'd suggest buying a prebuilt laptop.  You should be able to easily upgrade the HDD and memory.  You can save money here significantly.  Beyond that, make sure the prebuilt laptop has what you need.
« Last Edit: Apr 17, 2014, 07:29 PM by Luke Warm »

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« Reply #4 on: Apr 17, 2014, 08:28 PM »
Me too DeathM. I like taking apart and tinkering with that stuff. I had my daughters apart and it looks very complex how they have everything crammed in there.
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 17, 2014, 09:48 PM »
yeah, i never saw or heard anything about changing cpus until i read that post. The only time i ever remember hearing about a laptop with an interchangeable video card was with the high end alien ware pc's.... pretty sure that was pre dell though. I have seen laptop gpus on new egg and stuff alot more but i assumed it was just for the alien ware laptops. I guess ill do some reading around and look for some deals and build up a laptop over time.... took me almost a year to get my desktop to where it is right now and it still has a way to go..... actually if i could just get an 8350 and a 780ti i would call it done.